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Postby n000n000 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:24 pm

mosleyh wrote:Have you added the IR commands you want to use into the USBUIRT database?

If not, select MLUSBUIRT and click settings in the MLServer panel.

Click DATABASE in the next window

Right click on USB-UIRT in the left pane, and select ADD DEVICE

Name it NAD_370, and click SAVE

Now, Right click "NAD_370" from the list in the left pane, and select NEW COMMAND

Name it "Power_off"

If you have the pronto command data (for discrete OFF, I assume),select PRONTO, paste it into the window, then click SAVE

Otherwise, select RAW, then click LEARN

Point the remote that control that operated the NAD at the USBUIRT, and hold down the power off button until it successfuly learns the command. (this way will most likely leave you with a power toggle. . .)

Click SAVE.

Now, the command you listed should work. Add the other commands you want to use, and you should be all set. :wink:

HTH


No I didn't add my commands on the database : thank you for the info!

But I've just tried to follow your instructions and when I click on settings with MLUSBUIRT selected, nothing happens.
If I select others plugins like MLGenericSerial, MLHSPlugin,MLMusicPlayer : I get a window with settings.

I've double checked and I've got MLUSBUIRT.dll and USBUIRT.mdb in the MLServer\plugins directory.

Any idea why I can't get the Settings now ?

Thanks

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Postby n000n000 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:38 pm

I just found the solution to my problem : I forgot to register my DLL ... :oops:

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RegSvr32 "C:\Program Files\MLServer\Plugins\MLUSBUIRT.dll


By the way, I get some difficulties to learn code to my USB UIRT : I need to try at least 10 times (if I'm lucky) to learn a simple key.
Any idea what can interfer with the learning sequence ?
Is the distance between the remote controle and the USBUIRT critical ?

Thanks

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Postby mosleyh » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:19 pm

The distance IS critical.

If I recall correctly, it's supposed to be within 2 - 3 inches of the USBUIRT.

You are holding the remote's button down until the progress bar goes all the way across, right?

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Postby bhiga » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:22 pm

For IR blasters/receivers in general, distance is critical - but more than just distance alone, space is also critical.

One might think that putting the sending right up against the receiver would be best - it isn't most of the time. Probably something to do with reflection...

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Postby mosleyh » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:40 am

Here's a quote from the USBUIRT forum to clarify. . .

The new firmware uses a 'wideband' IR detector which
is built inside the USB-UIRT. This detector is solely for learning
and has a *very* short range. In fact, it is range sensitive and
for it to work your remote will need to be only a few inches from
the USB-UIRT. The wideband detector is located just to the left of
the indicator LED. When learning, you'll need to point your remote
directly at the USB-UIRT and on a level plane. If you're too close
or too far away, the LED on the USB-UIRT will not light up. When
learning, you may want to try learning a few times and
experimenting with the range that works best.
The wideband detector gives very precise information about
the IR signal -- *including* frequency. When learning, you will
see a frequency appear on the learn dialog if you are at a good
range. Also, a signal quality meter helps identify if you're not
aimed properly or at a poor range.


I've seen recommendations of between 2 and 6 inches. As this paragraph makes clear, the LED will let you know if you're in the ballpark or not.

HTH. . .

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Postby n000n000 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:26 am

With all your advices, I finally manage to have everything working !
Thanks a lot !! :wink:

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Postby n000n000 » Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:26 pm

Hi,
I manage to learn most of my different IR devices but I get stuck with my Nec HT-1000 video projector.
"On" and "Off" sequences are not working even if I can get the Pronto code for both.
I think it's because these 2 actions require to hold the button for several seconds on the original remote control to send the info.
Looks like there is no repeat on MLUSBUIRT.
Any idea to have it working ?
Thanks
Arnaud

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Postby Rizlaw » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:11 pm

n000n000 wrote:Hi,
I manage to learn most of my different IR devices but I get stuck with my Nec HT-1000 video projector.
"On" and "Off" sequences are not working even if I can get the Pronto code for both.
I think it's because these 2 actions require to hold the button for several seconds on the original remote control to send the info.
Looks like there is no repeat on MLUSBUIRT.
Any idea to have it working ?
Thanks
Arnaud


Arnaud, it sounds as if you're running into the same problem I had with MLUSBUIRT: more specifically, IR repeat rate issues with MLUSBUIRT. I wrote to Support@USBUIRT and received the following answer:

The USB-UIRT automatically 'cleans up' IR commands -- so this is not the
issue. Rather, the issue is that the USB-UIRT allows a 'repeat Count' to be
specified when requesting that the unit transmit IR. This setting is
determined by the plugin that is talking to the USB-UIRT, and while I am not
specifically aware of the Cinemar implementation, *most* plugins for the
USB-UIRT for various apps allow this 'Repeat Count' setting to be adjusted.
In your case, the repeat Count is set too high, which is similar to holding
the remote's button down longer.

Please take a look at the Cinemar USB-UIRT plugin and see if you can find
such a setting. Please let me know what you find.

Best Regards,

Jon


Now, the author of MLUSBUIRT has stated that his plugin is Beta software; and he has also stated that he fixed a problem with the repeat rate of IR signals in an March 30, 2004 update to the plugin. However, for me, the plugin doesn't work on critical IR commands to control my Satellite Box. While the plugin is free, it does not permit the user to adjust the IR repeat rate mentioned by USBUIRT Support.

I have since started using the MLHSPlugin from HomeSeer, which does include the ability to modify the repeat rate, and I can state it works flawlessly for me. The down side is that it costs $40.00 and it requires that you purchase HomeSeer, too. I believe you can download a demo of HomeSeer and the MLHSPlugin and test them for yourself.

Bottom line is that MLUSBUIRT, while a good free plugin, needs to add the capability to allow the user to adjust the IR Repeat rate for all learned IR codes.

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Postby MurrayW » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:21 pm

Girder is also another (not free) possibility.

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Postby mcascio » Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:30 pm

Rizlaw,

I did pass your request for the repeat rate onto Dave P. Apparently it might not have been an option at the time of development but is now. He said he would look into it when time permits but couldn't commit to a firm date.
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Postby MurrayW » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:30 pm

mcascio wrote:Rizlaw,

I did pass your request for the repeat rate onto Dave P. Apparently it might not have been an option at the time of development but is now. He said he would look into it when time permits but couldn't commit to a firm date.

Mario,
Since I complained about 1 month ago, :oops: I want to now compliment you on your increased presence on this board. It's great to have timely feedback on the status of incidents and quick answers to questions we have from the man himself!

THANKS!

Murray :D

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Postby DavidL » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:15 pm

And when you see how many updates there are for MainLobby, MainLobby Server and most of the graphics librarys, you will see just how busy Mr. Mario has been!

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Postby gregoryx » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:16 am

MurrayW wrote:Mario,
I want to now compliment you on your increased presence on this board. It's great to have timely feedback on the status of incidents and quick answers to questions we have from the man himself!

THANKS!

Murray :D


Hear! Hear! =D>

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Postby n000n000 » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:23 pm

So looks like we just have to wait a new update of this plugin. :)

Usually, where is the best place to be inform about new updates ?

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Postby gregoryx » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:36 am

In smoothtlk's and Mario's posts... they drop hints. :wink:


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